NOVA: -¿Cómo titularán tu próximo álbum en Inglés?

J. De Niro: -No tengo idea. A veces me atrevo a sugerir títulos. Por lo que estoy grabando puedo decir que es un regreso a la temática “OLD NEW SONGS”, que son canciones relacionadas con el cine.

No lo hemos buscado sino que es una casualidad.

NOVA: -¿Casualidad?

J. De Niro: -Yo me he cansado de cantar todo lo que hice en el pasado. A veces quiero interpretar, aunque sea para mí mismo o para mis amigos cosas que hice en otro tiempo y me doy cuenta que me han saturado, con alguna excepción.

Trato de rescatar poemas míos guardados y si encontramos alguna composición que me “movilice o conmueva”, comienza el arduo trabajo de adaptarlo a dichas composiciones, con la aprobación correspondiente. Es una labor enorme.

Otras veces una melodía nos sugiere una historia y si ella ya existe, la sumamos a la pieza pre-existente.

NOVA: -¿Nos estás revelando un secreto?

J. De Niro: -Me gusta contar la manera en que llegamos a destino. Cada canción que he grabado tuvo su génesis y es muy hermoso ver el producto terminado. ¿Por qué no comentarlo?

NOVA: -¿Te han vuelto a hablar de participar en alguna producción de cine? Algo nos han contado prudentemente las chicas de Tribeca NY Music.

J. De Niro: -Me han hablado pero sigo pensando que no es mi género. Soy cantante no actor, aunque en mis interpretaciones asome un perfil de contenido actoral.

Cada uno debe conocer sus límites.

NOVA: -¿No te estarás perdiendo algo hermoso donde puedes ser una revelación?

J. De Niro: -No lo sé. A veces una canción de texto muy intenso me deja en estado de shock varias horas o días. No quiero imaginarme que me sucedería tratando de meterme en un personaje. Le tengo respeto a la profesión de actor. Muchas veces camina en la frontera de la locura. Y yo le temo a la locura.

NOVA: -¿Por qué dices eso? Tú sueles decir que una canción es una pieza de teatro de 3 minutos.

J. De Niro: -Es verdad, pero son 3 minutos y con música. No te mata.

Antes de emigrar a Europa me anote en un curso de teatro en la escuela de un célebre actor argentino de gran prestigio internacional.

Asistí a pocas sesiones interrumpidas por mi viaje.

En el corto tiempo en el que estuve en el curso vi verdaderas catarsis que, como psicólogo, me hicieron cuestionar el método. Allí había mucho de terapia grupal dirigida por un excelente actor aunque no se trataba de un profesional de la salud. Recuerdo que le hice el comentario y le señalé cierta imprudencia, pero el profesor me dijo” a veces salen cosas muy oscuras”. En fin, fue mi única experiencia. No me gustó.

NOVA: -¿Llegas a llorar cantando?

J. De Niro: -He dicho muchas veces que sí. Inclusive me ha sucedido cantar en Argentina, en vivo y tener verdaderos nudos en la garganta por haberme emocionado. Antes no me sucedía. La larga ausencia, los recuerdos y la edad que avanza me han jugado esos malos momentos.

En 2022 participé en Buenos Aires de un festejo en una famosa fundación médica, donde se homenajeaba a los profesionales de la salud que trabajaron durante la pandemia. Era un evento privado aunque el público era muy numeroso. Aunque dicen que lo hice bien, me conmoví tanto que un momento de la canción se me quebró la voz y no pude seguir cantando. El mismo año festejé también en Buenos Aires mi cumpleaños. Mis amigos asistentes me pidieron que cantase. Y lo mismo me sucedió.

NOVA: -¿Sólo te ocurre en Argentina?

J. De Niro: -Solamente me ocurre en Argentina

NOVA: -¿Has comprendido por qué te sucede allá?

J. De Niro: -Sí y no. Sospecho que detrás hay dolores, vivencias del duro camino recorrido y la sensación del país perdido donde deambula un muchacho a quien suelo llamar para que venga a mi encuentro y me ayude a remediar lo que no hice bien en el ayer.

Pero él no me escucha, se va y me deja sólo frente al espejo.

ENGLISH

In these days of August 2023, TRIBECA NEW YORK MUSIC and TUNECORE (one of the two distributors of the material recorded by Jhosemaria De Niro) have announced that part of the artist's work (OLD NEW SONGS and others) has exceeded 3,500,000 tracks sold worldwide. This is news that places the singer in the privileged place of the very famous, with the added merit of reaching such a level with a repertoire qualified "for minorities".

NOVA: - What will be the title of your next album in English?

J.DE NIRO: -I have no idea. Sometimes I dare to suggest titles. From what I'm recording, I can say that it's a return to the "OLD NEW SONGS" theme, which are songs related to cinema.

We weren't looking for it, it's just a coincidence.

NOVA: -Coincidence?

J.DE NIRO: -I'm tired of singing everything I've done in the past. Sometimes I want to interpret, even for myself or for my friends, things that I've done in the past and I realise that I'm saturated, with some exceptions.

I try to rescue some of my own saved poems and when we find a composition that "moves me or moves me", the hard work of adapting it to these compositions begins, with the appropriate approval. It is an enormous task.

Other times a melody will suggest a story and if it already exists, we add it to the existing piece.

NOVA: -Are you revealing a secret?

J.DE NIRO: -I like to tell the story of how we got there. Every song I've recorded had its genesis and it's very nice to see the finished product. Why not talk about it?

NOVA: -Have you been approached again to participate in a film production? Something the girls at Tribeca NY Music were careful to tell us.

J.DE NIRO: -I have been approached, but I still don't think it's my genre. I'm a singer, not an actor, even though my performances have an acting profile.

Everyone has to know their limits.

NOVA: -Aren't you missing something beautiful where you can be a revelation?

J.DE NIRO: -I don't know. Sometimes a very intense lyrical song leaves me in a state of shock for several hours or days. I don't want to imagine what would happen to me if I tried to get into a character. I have respect for the acting profession. It often borders on madness. And I'm afraid of madness.

NOVA: -Why do you say that? You usually say that a song is a 3-minute piece of theatre.

J.DE NIRO: -It's true, but it's 3 minutes and with music. It doesn't kill you.

Before I emigrated to Europe, I enrolled in a theatre course at the school of a famous Argentinean actor of great international prestige.

I attended a few sessions that were interrupted by my trip.

In the short time I was there, I saw real catharsis that made me, as a psychologist, question the method. There was a lot of group therapy, led by an excellent actor, although he was not a health professional. I remember making a comment and pointing out a certain imprudence, but the professor told me that "sometimes very dark things come out". Anyway, that was my only experience. I didn't like it.

NOVA: -Can you cry when you sing?

J.DE NIRO: -I have said many times that I do. I've even sung live in Argentina and I had real knots in my throat because I got emotional. It's never happened to me before. The long absence, the memories and the advancing age have played those bad moments on me.

In 2022, I attended a ceremony in Buenos Aires at a famous medical foundation honouring health professionals who worked during the pandemic. It was a private event, although the audience was very large. Although they say I did well, I was so moved that at one point in the song my voice broke and I couldn't continue singing. That same year I celebrated my birthday in Buenos Aires. My friends who were there asked me to sing. And the same thing happened to me.

NOVA: -Does this only happen to you in Argentina?

J.DE NIRO: -It only happens to me in Argentina.

NOVA: -Have you understood why this is happening to you?

J.DE NIRO: -Yes and no. I suspect that behind it there are pains, experiences of the hard road travelled and the feeling of the lost country, where a boy wanders around whom I usually call to come to me and help me remedy what I didn't do well yesterday.

But he doesn't listen, he goes away, leaving me alone in front of the mirror.